Pendulum Swings & 2023’s State of JS

Whoa, there was one more “State of” survey from 2023 to mine for content! Who knew? Yes, the results are in, and we talk about them…but more broadly, our feelings about the state of web frameworks in our industry and the much-ballyhooed pendulum swing back to server-side rendering and HTML-first techniques (though the rate of change is perhaps not what we might wish for).

Hosted by Jared White & Ayush and produced by Intuitive Future

Links & Show Notes:

• Follow Just a Spec on Mastodon
• The Spicy Web & That HTML Blog
• State of JavaScript Survey 2023
• Our past "State of" episodes:
  • State of HTML Episode 17
  • State of CSS Episode 10

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction
• 1:11 Weather Report™
• 2:18 Our 3rd "State of" episode
• 4:22 Demographics, diversity…ugh
• 4:46 JS language pain points…wherefore TypeScript?
• 6:30 Browser API pain points
• 7:08 Ayush explains to us an utterly inscrutable chart
• 9:21 S-tier technologies (yay for esbuild!)
• 9:49 Frontend frameworks (hoo boy…)
• 14:53 Are you feeling happy?
• 17:08 The sorry state of web platform education
• 17:53 Framework pain points (React! uhhh…)
• 19:58 Next.js angst, Astro's remarkable ascendance
• 22:04 Build tooling, JS vs. TS balance
• 24:51 Our personal JavaScript vibes
• 38:21 Looking ahead to future surveys
• 40:26 Outro